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As you can see after this debate, people are only sentenced to death if they truly deserve it. The death penalty is constitutional as the punishment should be equal to the crime, the death penalty is not “cruel” nor “unusual” and lastly the Supreme Court has determined it constitutional. Our first main point was that the lethal injection was humane and painless as it has a three step process. Our second main point was that the accused criminal was checked/investigated extremely carefully before sentenced to death. Our third point stated that it is not “cruel and unusual”. Lastly the death penalty helps reduce future crime.

The death penalty has been used since the beginning of history, it should not be thought of as inhumane after all these years.

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How does the death penalty go against the 8th Amendment? When they created the Amendment the death penalty was not considered "cruel" or "unusual". The ability to determine a criminal's life has been acceptable for thousands of years, it should not stop now. The death penalty law first started in 18th century BC in the Code of King Hammaurabi of Babylon. Again, the death penalty was in the fourteenth Century B.C.'s in Hittite Code and the death penalty continued into Seventh Century B.C. in Draconian Code of Athens. Facts from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/part-i-history-death-penalty.

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In Furman v. Georgia (1972) the death penalty was determined to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Only 4 years later in Gregg v. Georgia (1976) the death penalty was allowed again as the Supreme Court realized they made an incorrect decision. http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/speakout/is-the-death-penalty-constitutional

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As I said before, at the bottom of the website it has a long list of reliable sources, and the quote from President George Walker Bush is from http://prodpquotes.info/prodp/default/view/1627/Presidents-of-the-USA

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The ability to determine a criminal's life has been acceptable for thousands of years, it should not stop now. The death penalty law first started in 18th century BC in the Code of King Hammaurabi of Babylon. Again, the death penalty was in the fourteenth Century B.C.'s in Hittite Code and the death penalty continued into Seventh Century B.C. in Draconian Code of Athens. Facts from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/part-i-history-death-penalty.

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According to http://prodpquotes.info/prodp/default/view/1627/Presidents-of-the-USA Theodore Roosevelt believed that the death penalty is needed, to take lives away of those who have done terrible crimes. He said, “As regards capital cases, the trouble is that emotional men and women always see only the individual whose fate is up at the moment, and neither his victim nor the many millions of unknown individuals who would in the long run be harmed by what they ask. Moreover, almost any criminal, however brutal, has usually some person, often a person whom he has greatly wronged, who will plead for him. If the mother is alive she will always come, and she cannot help feeling that the case in which she is so concerned is peculiar, that in this case a pardon should be granted. It was really heartrending to have to see the kinfolk and friends of murderers who were condemned to death, and among the very rare occasions when anything governmental or official caused me to lose sleep were times when I had to listen to some poor mother making a plea for a criminal so wicked, so utterly brutal and depraved, that it would have been a crime on my part to remit his punishment.”

The death penalty is also limited to certain people. In Coker v. Georgia (1977) the Supreme Court decided that the death penalty cannot be given to someone for raping and adult women. In 2005 it was decided that minors could not be sentenced to death as well as mentally ill people. According to https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/death_penalty

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Where did you get this information from? Please list the source, is it reliable?

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How do you know who the murderers are? Are they white, black, or hispanic?

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The quote from President George Walker Bush is definitely reliable, it is from http://prodpquotes.info/prodp/default/view/1627/Presidents-of-the-USA

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They have a list of sources below and they look reliable.

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The death penalty is needed in order to keep serious crime in order such as murder. According to http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/ death-penalty-v-the-8th-amendment/ 91% of top American criminologists say that politicians support the death penalty in order to appear tough on crime. President George Walker Bush said, “I support the death penalty because I believe, if administered swiftly and justly, capital punishment is a deterrent against future violence and will save other innocent lives."

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According to http://theproscons.com/pros-cons-death-penalty/

Anybody that is considered for death penalty, the judicial system makes sure that they are sane and have had enough time to plan, their background, and their character. The jury must all agree without doubt for that person the get the death penalty.

This shows that the accused criminal is thoroughly investigated. The court would not make an incorrect decision about someone's life.

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The death penalty is needed in order to keep serious crime in order such as murder. According to http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/ death-penalty-v-the-8th-amendment/ 91% of top American criminologists say that politicians support the death penalty in order to appear tough on crime. President George Walker Bush said, “I support the death penalty because I believe, if administered swiftly and justly, capital punishment is a deterrent against future violence and will save other innocent lives."

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We gave a brief small statement of our points as we will argue much more information about it in this debate. What about the 32 other states that support the capital punishment?

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According to https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/death_penalty,

in Baze v. Rees (2008), Baze said that lethal injection was not a cruel or unusual punishment.

The following information is from http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2015/ 04/supreme-court-to-decide-constitutionality-of-lethal-injection-drugs/;

Executions by lethal injection are done with a three-drug formula. The first drug is a sedative, which places the prisoner in a deep, coma-like state so the pain of the following two drugs is not felt. The second drug is a paralytic which prevents all movement and stops respiration by paralyzing the diaphragm. The third and final drug induces cardiac arrest.

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Is the death penalty constitutional? This has been a controversial topic over the past century. Many think that one doesn’t have the right to take away a person's life while others believe that a criminal should receive what he/she deserves.

The death penalty is not allowed to be inflicted on minors and mentally ill criminals. This really shows that the death penalty is used when it is extremely necessary.

We believe that the death penalty does not violate the Eighth Amendment as the punishment should be equal to the crime, the death penalty is not “cruel” nor “unusual”, and the Supreme Court has already determined it constitutional.

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Countries will never be satisfied if the US is running their country.

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First of all fix the way you phrase your point and your spelling.

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The US is a country that has the power to help those in need. Of course they should help countries that need the support!

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Other countries that can support, govern, and protect their people do not need the US to be telling what to do.

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If a country wasn't in any sort of problem, would you want another country to come in and boss you around?

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Other countries that can support themselves do not need America to be telling them what to do. Countries can make their own decisions and protect their people. Americans themselves already have hundreds of issues in their own country. They should first focus on their own problems and ways to improve their country and then they can start helping others.



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