Sarahzaman's Waterfall
there is a link for you to see... too lazy, huh? Guess we know how serious you are about the debate
Another one of our points is that this community centre might be being built for supporting terrorism. We do not know the intentions of this centre. The centre could possibly be for promoting terrorism because why would the community centre be so set on building it in this particular location? The main goal of the radical and extremist Muslims is to islamize America.Do we want this, do we want the sharia Law in effect?
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/
Another one of our points is that this community centre might be being built for supporting terrorism. We do not know the intentions of this centre. The centre could possibly be for promoting terrorism because why would the community centre be so set on building it in this particular location? The main goal of the radical and extremist Muslims is to islamize America.Do we want this, do we want the sharia Law in effect?
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/
"I'm ashamed to be an American today," said Rakif Gathwari, a Muslim-American who reminded the crowd that people from many countries and religions died in the attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.
"I want to prove to this hall that I am a citizen," Gathwari said, holding up his passport.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/
No, he said they had every right... please read this link
"As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said at a White House ceremony last summer that marked the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. "That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan in accordance with local laws and ordinances."
But in a visit to the Gulf Coast, Obama later dialed back saying that he supported the Muslims community's right to build the mosque, but was not sure it was a good idea to build so close to Ground Zero.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/
That's great, but no one will use these facilities because they oppose the building of the centre and only muslims will end up using the centre.
This Mosque might be there to promote peace which is fine, but being a Muslim myself I believe that so many people have suffered and have been affected from the 911 attacks. People oppose the plan. How will the centre promote peace and fight terrorism? Ground Zero is one place in America where muslims should just forget about promoting Islam’s peace message and instead act like real American’s and recognise the area as an emotional and hallowed place. They should put their duty as an American first, for once and recognise the harm it brought to many people.
“I just don’t understand why people who are supposedly building a mosque to talk about tolerance and interfaith understanding could be so un-understanding of the feelings of those of us who were there on Sept. 11,” he told Newsmax TV.
He continued: “It’s not about religious freedom, it’s about putting a facility that is inappropriate so close to Ground Zero,” he said. “This is not about being anti-Muslim.”
http://www.religionnews.com/2015/05/28/
Jindal stressed “we don’t discriminate against anybody of any religion and certainly there are many Muslims that are proud patriotic Americans. That’s great.”
But, he added, “it’s also true there are radical Muslims, Muslims that want to treat women as second-class citizens.”
“There are those who want to use our freedoms to undermine the freedoms of others. It makes no sense to let those types of folks come into our country. It is just common sense. The question I’ll specifically ask for example is would I be for allowing ISIS members to come to America? Why would I want to allow people who want to kill Americans to come to America?” Jindal said.
How do we know the intentions of this community centre? The Turkish are doing this
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/
-The Mosque might promote radical and extremist Muslims to come to US and cause harm and terrorism in US
I've read this through Sam before and this is an extrememley inaccurate and non reliable source.
There already is a similar community centre for the Jewish a few blocks away, why can't people just use that?
We completely agree, but why can't the centre be built somewhere else. Why this exact location? One of the points we would like to argue is that building it here might give extremist/radical muslims the idea that they have defeated the West and are stronger after the 911 attack. Do you really want the terrorists to think/believe this?
How will it strengthen the relation if only muslims will be using the centre... sounds like this will strengthen terrorism
wow! how do we know that this poll is correct. This is not from a reliable source but from you yourself
are you seriously talking about how people will benefit from the job oppurtunities...
we are talking about the ethical values not jobs...
you should probably rethink
The Cordoba Initiative Group have stated that they are building the community centre to strengthen and unite people from different faiths. Our third point is that how will it unite people if most people will not use it because they do not support the building of the community centre.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/
A CNN/Opinion Research poll released this week found that nearly 70 percent of Americans opposed the mosque plan while just 30 percent approved. A number of Democratic politicians have shied away from the controversy.
Since people oppose the building of the community centre than only muslims will use the centre, than how will the centre be used by people from different faiths and unite them. The Cordoba Initiative Group must rethink and build the centre somewhere else so it is actually used by others and bring people together. This way people would be happy and appreciate the Cordoba initiative group.
Our second point regards the democracy of the nation. Some may argue that building the community centre would strengthen democracy. This is completely wrong. When there is a significant number of people who do not want to build the community centre than we as a democratic nation must acknowledge this. It is not that the Muslims can not build the mosque but the fact we shouldn't because we acknowledge the emotional sensibility of doing so. We should not build a community centre on the grave site of thousand of innocent people.
For me, that’s my mother’s grave site. It’s plain, as simple as that.And I — I appreciate the fact that they are building a memorial and a museum.
And I don’t care how tall it is. It could be one story or 13 stories. I do not like it to be close, because so many people of different faiths also lost their lives. If that’s so, then we should build a temple and a church around it, too. And what about other people, Hindus and Baha’is, everybody else that was on that plane that died.
-people are considering it to be a grave site.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/
Barak Obama did state that the Muslims are allowed to build the community centre but he did not comment if it was appropriate to do so. Our first point is that although the Muslims have the first amendment right to build what they want on their private property and the freedom of religion, we argue that it is not ethical to do so.
"President Obama is wrong," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. "It is insensitive and uncaring for the Muslim community to build a mosque in the shadow of ground zero." Many victims and family members say that they do not support the mosque to be built on a place where thousands have been killed by muslims themselves, whether or not they are extremist or moderate. It is wrong. JIM RICHES, former deputy chief, FDNY: They can have their mosque, but have it somewhere else. I don’t want it overlooking the site where my son was murdered that day by 19 Muslim terrorists.
I have read this exact same thing thrice already... is this all you have
I completely agree. Muslims have every single right to do so, however we question if it is appropriate to do so. We are not against the building of the community centre but rather the location of it. On this very day thousands of people have died. People are perturbed and we must acknowledge the emotional sensibility if we build it. Hence we don't build a shinto shrine at Pearl harbor
