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In conclusion we don't dislike muslims or the community center it is location that is chosen that we dislike. In addition why would they want to build the centre if so many oppose it. Who are the people who want to build it, terrorists. We don't know the intentions of the centre.

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Stop the Islamization of America, an anti-radical Islam organization led by Pamela Geller, stated on its webpage titled "Protest the 911 Mega Mosque on Sunday June 6th," accessed Sep. 24, 2010: "Building the Ground Zero mosque is not an issue of religious freedom, but of resisting an effort to insult the victims of 9/11 and to establish a beachhead for political Islam and Islamic supremacism in New York. Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is an open proponent of Sharia, Islamic law, a system that denies the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law.Abdul Rauf has said that an Islamic state can be established in more then just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Shariah that are required to govern. Thus it is clear that this mosque will teach Sharia, Islamic supremacism, and the denial of basic rights." http://wtcmuslimcenter.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=1612

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Rudy Giuliani, JD, former Mayor of New York City, stated in an Aug. 2, 2010 interview on the Jeff Katz radio show: "Not only is [the proposed location] exactly the wrong place, right at ground zero, but it’s a mosque supported by an imam who has a record of support for causes that were sympathetic with terrorism.This is a desecration. Nobody would allow something like that at Pearl Harbor. Let’s have some respect for who died there and why they died there. Let's not put this off on some kind of politically correct theory.[People] died there because of Islamic extremist terrorism. Islamic extremists are our enemy... [Opposition to the mosque] will not and should not insult any decent Muslim." http://www.google.com/url?q=http://wtcmuslimcenter.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=1612&sa;=D&sntz;=1&usg;=AFQjCNGAZgMeUYpaO_sbz8vICPNlLMnhSg

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Do your hear that? It’s the sound of no one caring. You're seriously talking about that people will benefit for a library, gymnasium, swimming pool, basketball court, 500-seat auditorium, a restaurant, a 9/11 memorial, child care facilities, and a school for culinary arts.

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I see someone is going off topic, this is about the 1st Amendment- Ground Zero Mosque and Freedom of Religion. Don't add other information that is not about the topic.

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Muslim community center is so close to the site where radical Muslims killed about 2,750 people is as much a political statement as a religious gesture, and have demanded that developers find a different location.Bill Doyle, whose 25-year-old son, Joseph, was killed in the attacks, said many families who lost loved ones at the site were “incensed” about the mosque, viewing it as a tribute to the terrorists behind the hijackings. Part of their anger stems from their broader frustration over redevelopment of the site, and plans for a memorial that would be located beneath street level. “High up in the air you have a 13-story mosque, outshining the memorial itself,” Mr. Doyle said. “It’s almost a slap in the face.”

(http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/ 08/04/should-a-mosque-be-built-near-ground-zero/?_r=0 )

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If the no specific reason then why build it there. They could build somewhere else, why pick that specific area and know that people will dislike it. It is like a slap to the face.

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Wow only 60 people muslims died, that's hard to believe to be honest.Did you change your mind? Your other one was clearly broken.

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The group has the legal right to build there, but they should exercise discretion in choosing their location. The group that wants to build a mosque at ground zero has the legal right to build it there. But, they are showing remarkably poor judgment in choosing that location. It shows incredible insensitivity to the families of the victims that were killed by Muslim extremists. Imagine how the Muslim world would react if Christians tried to build a chapel outside the holy sites at Mecca. The building would be destroyed, and the people there would probably be badly injured or killed. (http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-a-mosque-be-allowed-at-ground-zero)

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On September 9th, 2001, 4 passenger airliners were hijacked by 19 Al Qaeda members to be flown into buildings in suicide attacks. 2 of the airplanes were flown into the World Trade Centre and one was crashed into the Pentagon. 14 years later, people have still not overcome the great tragedy that many love ones died from. The Cordoba Initiative Group plan to build a community centre 2 blocks away from Ground Zero, the site of 911. Building an Islamic community centre 2 blocks away from the World Trade Centre on hallowed ground is clearly not what many want. The Islamic Community Centre should not be built 2 blocks away from the World Trade Centre or anywhere close to it. The 9/11 attack was one of the largest American attack in history and is a stab in the heart of the families of the innocent victims who died during the day of 9/11. We do not oppose the building of the community centre and the mosque but rather the location of where it is being built. We plan to argue on these points: If The Community’s centre’s goal is to unite people from different faiths, but this centre will not be used by non muslims as they oppose it, so how will this bring faiths together? We do not know the real intentions of the community centre and argue that this community centre might be supporting terrorism. Allowing it to be built might give radical and extremist muslims a different picture. It might give them the idea that they have defeated the West and are stronger. This communtiy centre can potentially become a centre for those who promote terrorism and promote the Islamization of America. We strongly protest and oppose the Islamic community centre and mosque that is being built on hallowed ground, 2 blocks away from the location of one of the largest terrorist attacks in the country of US that was caused by extremist Muslims themselves.

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They shouldn't be allowed to train together because if women and men work together the men might get distracted due to women. Also men are more physically stronger than women so training can't be the same. Women can't be made to have the same training as men.



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