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37
45
Yes it should be allowed No, it should not
Debate Score:82
Arguments:71
Total Votes:112
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 Yes it should be allowed (37)
 
 No, it should not (31)

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8D: 4th Amendment Unlawful Search and Seizure

 Question:  “Should the TSA be permitted to use ‘advanced imaging technology’ to peer under passengers’ clothing in search of dangerous items?”

Yes it should be allowed

Side Score: 37
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No, it should not

Side Score: 45
1 point

The number of terrorist attacks have significantly decreased since the scanning program has started because it became more difficult for passengers to bring dangerous or illegal items on board.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
hamzaghr Disputed
1 point

there are still terrorist attacks in the world and even a pen can be used as a weapon to kill

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Hamza you need to check your spelling before you try to make a point.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Cyrusachtari(3) Disputed
1 point

Well there still have been a lot of terrorist attacks such as the german co-pilot and the missing planes

Side: No, it should not
tobias Disputed
1 point

No thats not true think about the Malaysian air crashes and the german air wings that could not have been prevented with the scanners because those were done by the pilots.

Side: No, it should not
1 point

The metal detector can only detect metal. Back then, that was good enough but technology and weapons have become more complex. Now they have liquid and plastic explosives. The body scanners can detect all of that while the metal detectors can't.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

In conclusion advanced imaging technology should be used to peer under people’s clothes to find metallic or nonmetallic threats. This method of security is not harmful to a person's health because it doesn’t use X-rays to look the person’s clothes, it bounces electromagnetic radiation off your body. If you don’t feel comfortable with this method you are allowed to opt out and the alternative will be a pat-down.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

In conclusion advanced imaging technology should be used to peer under people’s clothes to find metallic or nonmetallic threats. This method of security is not harmful to a person's health because it doesn’t use X-rays to look the person’s clothes, it bounces electromagnetic radiation off your body. If you don’t feel comfortable with this method you are allowed to opt out and the alternative will be a pat-down.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

In conclusion advanced imaging technology should be used to peer under people’s clothes to find metallic or nonmetallic threats. This method of security is not harmful to a person's health because it doesn’t use X-rays to look the person’s clothes, it bounces electromagnetic radiation off your body. If you don’t feel comfortable with this method you are allowed to opt out and the alternative will be a pat-down.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
0 points

The TSA has also helped many veterans, and injured warriors during this program. TSA has assistance for injured veterans and wounded warriors. TSA also helps assist travelers with disabilities and medical conditions which makes it easier for their traveling experience.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
-1 points

Today we are going to discuss the 4th amendment which is Unlawful Searches and Seizures. The topic question is “Should the TSA be permitted to use ‘advanced imaging technology’ to peer under passengers’ clothing in search of dangerous items?” We say that they should be able to peer under people's clothes. The first point we are going to make is that they are not dangerous to people’s health, Advanced Imaging Technology is considered safe for everyone; including pregnant woman and individuals with medical transplants. Second the TSA allow you to opt out, the alternative is a pat-down. Lastly, the body scanner is not as harmful as an X-ray scanner because the device only peers under the passengers clothes and not into their skeletal system. The body scanner makes it more difficult for passengers to bring illegal or dangerous items into the airplane which also reduces the chance of terrorist attacks. Safety comes first.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
hamzaghr Disputed
2 points

you said its okay to peer under peoples clothes what if people had a religious belief like a hi jab you cant scan her

Side: No, it should not
hamzaghr Disputed
2 points

what if you have 14 year old daughter you wouldn't want older men seeing her private body parts

Side: No, it should not
1 point

Also, some officers that find other people pretty sometimes lie about the scan so that they can pat them down and grope them.

Side: No, it should not
abi101(13) Disputed
0 points

Again it is a ghost like image of the body NOT graphic! The scanning viewers do not know who is in the scanner either, it is harmless. Don't forget, there is always the opt out option.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Lategan(13) Disputed
-1 points

The Supreme Court acknowledged “the steps the TSA has already taken to protect passenger privacy, in particular distorting the image created using AIT and deleting it as soon as the passenger has cleared.”

Side: Yes it should be allowed
-1 points

Advanced Imaging Technology is not dangerous to people’s health because the TSA operate using millimeter wave technology, they work by bouncing HARMLESS electromagnetic waves off your body and showing a 3D image of the body.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
-1 points

Each full body scan with backscatter produces less than 10 microREM the equivalent to the exposure each person receives in about 2 minutes of airplane flight. The energy emitted by millimeter wave technology is thousands of times less than what is permitted for a cell phone.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Cyrusachtari(3) Disputed
2 points

Well even though the scanners dont produce that much radiation, they still need to buy dosimeters to measure the radiation just to make sure so that wastes money.

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

It is good that they spend money to make sure that the scanners are in good condition. People then can pass through the scanners without worrying if it will harm them.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
-2 points
hamzaghr Disputed
2 points

i'm sorry are you rattled all ready posting the same thing 3 times

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

I'm sorry, you are posting the same thing over and over. If I have to say something 3 times for you to finally understand it, then thats fine with me.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
3 points

Opening Statement:

We will be talking about how the TSA shouldn’t be permitted to use ‘advanced imaging technology’ to peer under passengers’ clothing in search of dangerous items. The TSA shouldn’t be allowed because the TSA Scanners just violate the 4th amendment because the 4th amendment says that people have the right to not be searched. People should have the choice to not be searched and use the metal detectors if they want to. The Scanners can also cause diseases in people such as basal cell carcinoma and cancer.TSA Scanner s are also easily hacked so people can get through them easily with weapons. We will be arguing about these following points in the debate, diseases, hacking, and violation of privacy & the 4th amendment.

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

You get more radiation from the plane than the scanner. The technology they use meets national health and safety standards. Kristin Lee a spokeswoman from TSa said “It would take more than 1,000 screenings per individual per year to exceed radiation standards.”

Side: Yes it should be allowed
tobias Disputed
2 points

No matter how many times the US TSA claims the machines are safe and pose no threat to travelers or personnel naked body scanners that emit radiation are, indeed, a very serious health threat.

Side: No, it should not
abi101(13) Disputed
0 points

The people viewing scanners are in a remote place that will be away from the other passengers which will raise fewer privacy concerns. Since the viewers are in another room, they do not know who is in the scanner. No cameras, phones, or printers are in the scanning room so they woould not be able to save the photos, as it is illegal. It doesn't exactly violate the peoples privacy because the photos are ghost like NOT graphic. The AIT scans under peoples clothing for metallic or nonmetallic threats without touching the person.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
tobias Disputed
2 points

Yet people still get fired for reviling pictures And posting them on the internet of people that they are scanning.

Side: No, it should not
2 points

THE TSA SCANNERS PIERCE UNDER THE SKIN SO IF THE RAYS HIT THE EYES THERE IS A HIGH RISK OG GOING BLIND.

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

They don't pierce under your skin, they bounce electromagnetic waves off your body.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
tobias Disputed
2 points

The scanners radiation just penetrates below skin level, it could imperil the lens of the eye.

Side: No, it should not
abi101(13) Disputed
1 point

They do NOT pierce under the skin! They only PEER under your clothes and not into your skeletal system. I believe you are talking about the X-ray.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
2 points

Old people over the age of 65 have a high risk of getting cancer

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Advanced Imaging Technology is not dangerous to people’s health because the TSA operate using millimeter wave technology, they work by bouncing HARMLESS electromagnetic waves off your body and showing a 3D image of the body.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Advanced Imaging Technology is considered safe for everyone; including pregnant woman, individuals with medical transplants and children.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
2 points

Well the TSA Scanners can't always be right because there is only one officer looking at the scans, so if he is bribed or wants to let someone pass with an illegal item, they can. That is why the TSA Scanners aren't always the best results.

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Here is an example of an officer being bribed by people to let them pass with drugs VVV

Supporting Evidence: Bribed Officer (abc7news.com)
Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Supreme Court suggested, “screening passengers at an airport is an ‘administrative search’ because the primary goal is not to determine whether any passenger has committed a crime but rather to protect the public from a terrorist attack.”

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Eighty-one percent of people think airports should use these new machines.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
2 points

2 Officers have been fired for groping a passenger that looked attractive to them by changing the gender on the scanner so that the scanner believes that the passenger is holding weapons. After they changed the gender, they preformed a pat down and groped the passenger.

Supporting Evidence: 2 Officers in Denver Airport groped a passenger (consumerist.com)
Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

“These alleged acts are egregious and intolerable. TSA has removed the two officers from the agency,” the agency said in a statement. “All allegations of misconduct are thoroughly investigated by the agency. And when substantiated, employees are held accountable.”

Side: Yes it should be allowed
abi101(13) Disputed
1 point

There are no officers allowed during the screening process. This may have happened doing the pat down.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
2 points

Even though the scanners in the airport don't produce that much radiation, the officers still need to buy a dosimeter for every single person to make sure that they are safe from radiation.

Side: No, it should not
tobias Clarified
1 point

Body Scanners Do Cause Cancer!!!!!!

Back scatter AIT devices now being deployed produce ionizing radiation, which could be harmful to your health.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Thats why they use millimeter wave technology which bounces off harmless electromagnetic waves. Before you say something read what I've written because I have already said they use millimeter wave technology.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Can you please post the source where you found this information.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

The TSA has been quietly removing its X-ray body scanners from major airports and replacing them with machines that radiation experts believe are safer.

Side: No, it should not
tobias Clarified
1 point

It means that far fewer passengers will be exposed to radiation, because the X-ray scanners are being moved to smaller airports.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

Yes! Another reason why body scanners are safe to use. The technology of these machines are accurate which encourage safety

Side: No, it should not
tobias Disputed
1 point

This does not help you at all since you are for the scanners and we are against the scanners. it for us is a good thing that they are being removed.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

The TSA scanners have been reported to increase cancer rates. The scanners also cause 85% of basal cell carcinoma disease out of 800,000 per year.That is 680,000 people getting basal cell carcinoma from the scanners.

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Can you please post the source where you got this information from because you should read what scanner they use.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

Even though the radiation doses are likely to be very low, Elsayyad said the doses should still be confirmed using dosimeters.

Side: No, it should not
1 point

The TSA will remove all X-ray body scanners from airports, Bloomberg News reports.

The reason: Software couldn't be developed by a congressionally mandated deadline to automatically detect suspicious items on the body.

Side: No, it should not
tobias Clarified
1 point

Instead, TSA officers viewed images of passengers' naked bodies to see if they were carrying weapons.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Thank you for agreeing with us Tobias. You are right the TSA removed the Backscatter technology which uses X-rays to scan people.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
1 point

The scanners slow down everyone because every scan takes approximately 2 - 3 minutes but the old metal detectors only took 5 seconds.

Side: No, it should not
Lategan(13) Disputed
1 point

Would you rather get hurt by someone who brought a liquid explosive onto the plain or wait 2-3 minutes to safe a persons life.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
tobias Disputed
1 point

the scanners cant detect liquid bombs. because there is no metal in it and it will look like any other liquid

Side: No, it should not
abi101(13) Disputed
-1 points

As time goes by they are trying to make the scanners shorter and shorter. Now scanning only takes 15 seconds, and they are trying to make the process even faster. 15 seconds is really nothing, remember SAFETY COMES FIRST.

Side: Yes it should be allowed
tobias Disputed
1 point

And in those 15 seconds you could have a chance of going blind.

Side: No, it should not
1 point

Closing Sentence:

As you can see, our points prove that the TSA Scanners should be removed and that they shouldn't be used anymore because of all the risks and cases of it. The Scanners have not always been used for good reasons either. That is why they should remove them.

Side: No, it should not